Monday, January 10, 2005

Lies?

When President Bush invaded Iraq citing that they have WMD capabilities, every piece of domestic and foreign intelligence at the time, backed up this claim. Why then, now, do anti-Bush people say that President Bush lied to the American public, and misled the American public. I often hear or see the line "When Clinton lied, no one died," or "Bush lied, children died." I don't understand it; he didn't lie, he didn't mislead, and he didn't pressure the intelligence people to say what he wanted to hear. Even if he did, which I doubt, he couldn't have pressured every other country's intelligence. Indeed, the French also thought there were WMD's.

If you are a liberal, can you please comment and defend your position on this; I really don't understand your reasoning. I know most of you liberals don't agree with this war for other reasons too, but I beg you to comment on why you support this line of thinking. The other reasons are for another post, at another time. In fact, we have two past posts that address some of the other issues (The first one is here, the second is here).

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3 Comments:

At 12:50 AM, January 11, 2005, Blogger The CO said...

Well I’m a moderate and not a liberal but:

The belief that their were WMD's in Iraq was based on _one_ piece of intelligence. ONE. I'm not sure how old you guys are, and I can't say I care, but if you think a college professor would let you turn in a paper based off _one_ information source you've probably flunked out of DARE :-D. Committing a country to war on that same number of 411 sources is um, dubious at best. So those screaming "lies" are wrong, so are those screaming "good intelligence", it boils down to at best the president being gullible, and at worst seizing any opportunity to go to war.

 
At 1:33 AM, January 11, 2005, Blogger chaoticsynapticactivity said...

Casual Observer;

One? Which document/report are you referring to? The one submitted to the UN after the first Gulf War, as mandated as part of the peace then? Authored by Saddam's own government (read: Military/Baath Party), that specified the quantites of bio and chemical weaponry and the delivery vehicles? The very same one that a decade later was "updated" and handed to the UN once again?

HHHHHMMMMM... Do you think the college professor would accept a document (which I believe took up 29 CDROMS worth of data) from the subject being studied as an accuarate piece of commentary, or would you throw that out? Somehow, the World has gotten amnesia over the fact Iraq reported it's own stockpiles and was required to report back on how it had disposed of/dismantled/destroyed the offending weapons and delivery systems. Am I missing the time warp that made this go away, or am I hallucinating?

When the subect hands you documents, that's not "intelligence" that's facts.....Oh, and if Saddam's Generals lied to "cover their six," then I submit it was the Iraqi leadership who is responsible for the war, which was supported by 14 separate UN resolutions, demanding he disarm.

 
At 6:12 PM, January 11, 2005, Blogger Papa Ray said...

Hey,

Asking that question, is the same as asking a young college girl why she needs an abortion or why she wants to keep the baby. Either way, you will not get to the true facts. Because she is not mature enought to know the answer.

BTW,,,,great stuff here:READ THIS

Be sure and read the other interview. Actually you should read it first. (The link is at the end of the second interview).

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